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Harrisonburg / Rockingham MLS Changes Days On Market Accounting Practices
Here's how it started, or so they tell me....

In some other city or town in Virginia, a relocating buyer swept into town looking to buy a house.  He found a great house, discovered that it had only been on the market for a few weeks, and made a offer on the house relatively close to asking price given the short length of time on the market.  After moving in, he was talking to a neighbor, and commented on how glad he was that he was able to secure the house even though it was such a new listing.  The neighbor laughed, saying "What are you talking about?  They had been trying to sell that house for three years!"

How was it possible there?  Was it happening here?

The buyer's confusion, it seems, was based on the "Days on Market' field in the local MLS.  The information that the buyer reviewed showed a very low number for "Days on Market" and he understood that to mean (as most people would) that it was a very recent listing.  But in that area (and yes, in Harrisonburg and Rockingham County -- until recently) this "Days on Market' field could be conveniently reset by re-listing a property with a new company.

Indeed, even around here, if a seller became worried about buyers' perceptions of an ever increasing "Days of Market' value, that seller could list their home with a new real estate company, and start over at ZERO!

But now, things have changed around here....

Our local association of Realtors (HRAR) MLS changed in the past two weeks, introducing a new "Cumulative Days on Market" field.  This field will now track the total length of time that a property has been on the market, even if it is listed by multiple companies.  Thus, if Brokerage A has a property listed for 300 days, and after the listing agreement expires, the property owner hires Brokerage B, the "Days on Market" slate will no longer be wiped completely clean.  "Days on Market" will indeed return to ZERO, showing the length of time on the market with the new listing broker, but "Cumulative Days on Market" will continue to increase, to 301, 302, etc.

Does "Cumulative Days on Market" EVER reset??

If a property has been off the market (not listed) for 120 days (4 months), then both the "Days on Market" and "Cumulative Days on Market" will reset to ZERO when the property is re-listed.

How does this affect buyers, or sellers?

As a buyer, it will now be easier than ever for your Realtor to quickly discover how long a seller has truly been attempting to sell their home.  As a seller, it will no longer be able to present your home as a NEW LISTING all over again just by switching real estate companies. 

So, good or bad?

I'm glad the change has been made --- it makes it more difficult for a seller to be deceptive (which is reasonable) and it makes it easier for a buyer to have a clearer understanding of the status of the property.

But what do you think?

2 Comments so far . . .
Brooke Chao:
Actually it wasn't just listing a house with a new agency. It was also leaving it off the market (at the end of a contract) for a couple of months and then relisting later. I'm not sure how I feel about it. On the one hand, there is a certain element of "deception" to the ability to reset, but on the other hand, if the buyer feels the house is right, and the price is right then what's the problem? Honestly, if a house has (technically) been on the market for some time, chances are they aren't at the same listing price they were before, and have probably come back on the market with a substantially lower price. Also, they should be able to rely on their realtor to let them know if there's a problem with the house that makes the house an unattractive buy. I don't necessarily think sellers should be penalized for a bad market, or simply needing the right buyer for that house to come along, which, face it, can sometimes be the only reason some houses stay on the market longer than usual.
August 30, 2010 6:03 am

Scott Rogers:
Brooke,

You are correct --- the reset could also have been accomplished by taking the house off the market for a few months --- which can still be done (120 days).

To explore this a bit....if a house is on the market for a year with Broker A, and the following week is listed with Broker B, is it penalizing the seller unfairly to make it more evident that the house has really been on the market for 370-ish days? I can see it from both perspectives, as I imagine you can, but I'm wondering what you think the appropriate balance is in this case.

Thanks,

Scott


August 30, 2010 4:21 pm

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Conflicting Real Estate Market Indicators
Explain this....

Conflicting March Indicators

The number of properties viewed online (on our company site and all of our company's agent sites) has increased dramatically over the past year.  Thus, it seems that more buyers are hunting for homes.

But when we compare the number of closings in the first 28 days of last March and this March, we see a rather significant decline.

What is going on here?
  • Will the last three days of March this year be much more exciting (in terms of closings) than the last three days of March 2009?
  • Are a smaller percentage of potential buyers deciding to actually buy as compared to last year?
  • Are our web sites simply more popular than they were last year, and a higher percentage of buyers are using our sites now?
What are your theories?


Top Rockingham County Property Owners
A few days agoI provided information on the top 10 property owners in the City of Harrisonburg based on quantity of parcels owned, and total acreage owned.  Today, let's take a look at the same breakdown for Rockingham County . . .

Top Rockingham County Land Owners By Parcels

Top Rockingham County Land Owners By Acreage

Top Rockingham County Land Owners By Assessed Value

One significant note:

This analysis does not account for the variety of property owners that own property in slightly different names or under entirely different entity names.


Top Harrisonburg Property Owners
Last week we explored who owns Harrisonburg, based on where those property owners currently live.  Below are two additional slices of this data set --- exploring the top real estate owners in the City of Harrisonburg based on the number of parcels that they own, as well as the total acreage of the parcels that they own.

The top two in each category probably won't surprise you . . .

Top Harrisonburg Land Owners By Parcel Count

Top Harrisonburg Land Owners By Acreage

One significant note:
I did some basic grouping for the City of Harrisonburg and JMU to combine the parcels owned by each in different variations of their names.  This analysis does not, however, account for the variety of other property owners that own property in slightly different names or under entirely different entity names.

Who is getting involved in the conversations about local news and issues?
hburgnews

One of the local blogs I read is hburgnews.com -- if you're not already reading it, you definitely should!  One phenomenon that has been great to observe is seeing local government employees engaging in online conversations.

One recent example is on a post about Delayed Green Arrows around Harrisonburg, where a several Harrisonburg staff people explain some recent improvements in traffic engineering.  In the ensuing discussion concerns are brought forward and are then addressed by the city employees.  Then, Brad Reed (Traffic Analyst with Harrisonburg Public Works) goes on to say...

I'm excited to say that we will be finished with the new Traffic Engineering Division website in the near future. The site will go over the basics of how the city's signals are timed and coordinated and will give everyone a look at the components used to operate a signalized intersection. We would love to hear everyone's comments and suggestions, which is why the new site will also include a comment form dedicated to signal-related concerns. I encourage everyone to use the new form when it is released. In the meantime, if you would like to follow up or have any questions, please feel free to call the Public Works Department at (540) 434-5928.

Another great example of engagement by the local government is outgoing City Councilman Charlie Chenault's willingness to jump in to provide the facts or clear up misperceptions.

I appreciate you, my blog readers, who often comment and provide your feedback here --- and I recommend you also read hburgnews, and jump into the conversations happening in that forum.  It's a great way to not only know about the latest news in Harrisonburg, but also to be a part of conversations that will shape our area's future.

Here's to open, transparent, responsive local goverment!


Do you want to know what I really think?
Raw

When asked for my professional real estate opinion, I used to ask "Do you want to know what I really think?"  Or I would find myself prefacing some of my comments with "Well, if you want to know what I really think..."

Over the past six to twelve months, I have had numerous conversations with buyers, sellers, builders and developers about the current real estate market.  As such, I have dropped my prior vernacular from these conversations. 

For better or for worse, I'm telling people what I really think about our current market, or about their situation, proposal or property.  Buyers, sellers, builders and developers need to know the facts within the context of their situation or property as they make huge financial decisions.

So -- if you want to know how to make excellent buying, selling, building or development decisions, feel free to ask me -- just know that I may not always tell you what you want to hear.  (Though, I suppose I will always tell you what you should want to hear!)

Have Questions? Get Answers!
Step up to the mic!

Buying or selling real estate can be a complicated process at times, and questions often abound.  If you have questions about the process, or about the market, or about some other real estate related topic, feel free to leave a comment below, or e-mail me (scott@cbfunkhouser.com) or call me (540-578-0102).

Many of the topics covered on this blog are a result of questions that people like you have asked --- so feel free to step up to the mic to get your question(s) answered!

Do Realtors Make Huge Profits On Home Sales?
Is This How Much Realtors Make Each Year???

Josh posed the question of whether Realtors make extraordinary profits on home sales, and suggested I shed some light on the matter. I'd be happy to do so --- and I'll start with Josh's proposed example of a $100,000 home (though there aren't too many of those out there).

One Quick Assumption . . .
Upon the closed sale, Realtors are typically paid an amount derived from a percentage of the sale price of the property being sold. This percentage (the "real estate commission" or "brokerage fee") varies from company to company, from agent to agent, and can be negotiated. The sellers of all of the properties that I am currently marketing will pay either a 5% or 6% commission. Thus, for this example, we'll split the difference and use 5.5% as the sample brokerage fee.

At First You Would Think . . .
Many people would simply multiply the sales price ($100k) by the commission (5.5%) and assume that once I sell this fictional $100,000 home, I'd pocket $5,500. Could that be true??

"Sellers Agents" and "Buyers Agents"
The total commission that the seller pays is actually split (typically in half) between the Realtor representing the seller and the Realtor representing the buyer. While it is legal for a Realtor to represent both buyer and seller in a transaction, and many Realtors do so quite skillfully, it is not a practice that I encourage, as it can limit the representation that each party receives. As a result, and since in 95% (plus) of my transactions I am only representing one party, we will now divide the $5,500 by 2, and have $2,750 remaining.

The Company Has Costs Too
The remaining $2,750 is now split (again!) between the Realtor representing the seller (or buyer) and the company for which they work. Different companies have different arrangements as far as this split --- ranging from 50% to the Realtor to as high as 90% to the Realtor. Most companies are within the 50% to 75% range, so I'll average the limits of that range, and use 62.5% for our example. This leaves $1,719 to the Realtor. However, in my case, we pay a small percentage of each commission to Coldwell Banker Corporate (since we are a part of a national franchise), which actually leaves me with $1,616.

And Then There Are The Agent's Costs
If we are to compare a Realtors income to anyone else's income, we must next take out my business expenses. Last year (2007) my expenses were approximately 21% of my gross income. Some of these expenses are related to a single transaction (marketing costs, for example), and some are related to my overall business (Realtor association membership, MLS membership, office expenses, education/training expenses, etc.). Thus, the figure above ($1,616) is now reduced to $1,277.

Let's Extrapolate!
That final "profit" on the $100,000 sale was $1,277 --- which is 1.28% of the sale price. Thus, if all of the variables remained the same, here are some additional profit points:
$100,000 = $1,277
$185,700 = $2,377 (April 2008's median sales price)
$300,000 = $3,840 (a very nice home)
$500,000 = $6,400 (a very, very nice home)

Let's Compare Again
When we began, some might have made the assumption that I would have pocketed $5,500 on a $100k sale --- when in reality, I only profit $1,277. Along the same lines, someone selling a $300,000 home might think I would be pocketing $16,500 (wow!) --- when in reality, I only profit $3,840.

The Question At Hand
Returning to the original thought/question --- do Realtors make extraordinary profits? In my opinion, no --- in some transactions I am paid appropriately for the service, knowledge, marketing, representation, negotiation and expertise that I provided to my clients. In some transactions, I am underpaid. And in some cases, I provide such services to a buyer or seller for months, and am never compensated at all (if they do not buy or sell).

I hope this has shed some light on how compensation works in the real estate world (at least in my real estate world), and I certainly welcome other thoughts, questions, and perspectives!


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